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(@classicshredder999)
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has anyone seen or played one of theese unusual guitars heres a link to it.
http://www.freenotemusic.com/site/index.html


   
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(@rahul)
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Why not get a fretless guitar and have infinite number of frets?

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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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I can understand why you'd want to find those in-between notes - or microtones, as they call them - but what's wrong with bending strings?

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(@classicshredder999)
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yeah i dont really like the guitar, for me it would be to difficult to play and i really dont think they sound good


   
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(@blue-jay)
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Interesting guitar, but I have enough trouble with the simplest? I'd go with bending the strings too, I use it as a cheat to get a note without having to change position and finding the right fret. :roll:

"If your playing is baloney, then wiggle and bend 'em like they're macaroni!"

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(@tinsmith)
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I think they call it "Meantone".......there would a G#, as well as an Ab & they would not be the same note.

I Know a guy that plays a fretless guitar, with sometimes multiple slides. He uses the Meantone system....I guess it's as old as music itself.


   
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(@katmetal)
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Can I get that with a scalloped fretboard? :mrgreen:

Seriously, though - I don't really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it's supposed to sound that way.


   
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(@hyperborea)
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Seriously, though - I don't really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it's supposed to sound that way.

Only because you grew up listening to music in the equal temperament system. When the tuning system changed (it has multiple times) there were always those who didn't like the new one. Meantone might be the "best" overall but it has a big problem in that it is tuned for a single key only and when you switch keys you need to switch tuning.

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(@gnease)
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Can I get that with a scalloped fretboard? :mrgreen:

Seriously, though - I don't really like it ...it almost sounds out of tune half the time while he is playing it. Oh, I get it - it's supposed to sound that way.

of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it's pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning ("normal"), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have thought you'd appreciate the added tightness of harmonic-based tuning.

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(@katmetal)
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of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it's pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning ("normal"), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have thought you'd appreciate the added tightness of harmonic-based tuning.

Don't know what to say, except I can't argue with what my ears are telling me. I did listen to the audio clips, and I can "tolerate" the sound of that tuning, but I certainty don't prefer it. Oh well, to each his own...


   
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(@tinsmith)
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I guess we do it automatically as we bend those blue notes.


   
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(@gnease)
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of course I cannot argue with your opinion, but it's pretty hard to miss the added dissonance of equal-temperment tuning ("normal"), especially with distortion. as a metal guy, I would have thought you'd appreciate the added tightness of harmonic-based tuning.

Don't know what to say, except I can't argue with what my ears are telling me. I did listen to the audio clips, and I can "tolerate" the sound of that tuning, but I certainty don't prefer it. Oh well, to each his own...

and I can't argue with your ears either -- it's your perception and opinion.

I used to manage codec (e.g., AAC, PAC, MP3) objective testing for a codec design group. Among the "unofficial" observations among the experts and program managers, were that people acclimate pretty quickly to what they hear, and many do not hear obvious distortions and artifacts (codec mistakes), even after training and in A/B comparo scenarios. and even among the expert listeners there were big differences in perception. that led us to use groups of expert listeners to probe as many dimensions (e.g. harmonic distortion, frequency modulation, transient distortion, imaging, freq response …), because no one expert "heard it all." for music, the acclimatization and general fuzziness of perception can be big pluses, especially where equal-temperament tuning is involved. it works well enough and gives us incredible flexibility.

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(@ricochet)
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Back in the LP days Todd Rundgren put one out with a cut simulating all the bad record artifacts on it. I had a hard time hearing them, because I was used to hearing that stuff.

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(@anonymous)
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if the guy's basic tone wasn't so horrible, it might have been more interesting.

i have a fretless bass thinking it would free me up to microtones and all that stuff, but you just end up playing the same stuff you'd play normally.


   
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